Comments on: Israel vs Palestine. Is it ever going to calm down? http://smskullsessions.com/israel-vs-palestine Two friends share contrasting perspectives on today's hot topics and timeless issues. Thu, 10 Jun 2010 18:52:45 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: maccognoscenti http://smskullsessions.com/israel-vs-palestine/comment-page-1#comment-3280 maccognoscenti Thu, 10 Jun 2010 18:52:45 +0000 http://smskullsessions.com/?p=519#comment-3280 Steve, that NY Times article is definitely the most even-handed piece you've ever sent me. It explains why the blockade doesn't really work, why Hamas keeps getting stronger despite the blockade, and why Israel needs to rethink its policy on this. Encouraging a non-Hamas reliant economy is crucial to peace and "life" in Gaza... and Israel has not done that. Instead, their policies just continue to make them an easy target for more hatred and condemnation. And contrary to your Israeli-centric opinion, Obama is not selling Israel down the river... he's merely trying to bring some balance to a debate that has completely favored the jewish state in America... to a sometimes ridiculous extent. You certainly won't agree with this position and probably think me naive for even posting it, but Andrew Sullivan, my favorite conservative columnist (way better than Krauthammer) has a two-part opinion article called "Israel Derangement Syndrome" and I want you to read it. It's the perfect rebuttal to Krauthammer's article that this thread started with: <a href="http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2010/06/quote--2.html" target="_blank">http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_d...</a> Steve, that NY Times article is definitely the most even-handed piece you've ever sent me. It explains why the blockade doesn't really work, why Hamas keeps getting stronger despite the blockade, and why Israel needs to rethink its policy on this.
Encouraging a non-Hamas reliant economy is crucial to peace and "life" in Gaza… and Israel has not done that. Instead, their policies just continue to make them an easy target for more hatred and condemnation.
And contrary to your Israeli-centric opinion, Obama is not selling Israel down the river… he's merely trying to bring some balance to a debate that has completely favored the jewish state in America… to a sometimes ridiculous extent.
You certainly won't agree with this position and probably think me naive for even posting it, but Andrew Sullivan, my favorite conservative columnist (way better than Krauthammer) has a two-part opinion article called "Israel Derangement Syndrome" and I want you to read it. It's the perfect rebuttal to Krauthammer's article that this thread started with: http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_d…

]]> By: Steve Josovitz http://smskullsessions.com/israel-vs-palestine/comment-page-1#comment-3279 Steve Josovitz Thu, 10 Jun 2010 17:10:20 +0000 http://smskullsessions.com/?p=519#comment-3279 Justin "This is neutral unbiased and interesting piece" New Approach Sought as Pressure Grows to End Gaza Embargo - NYTimes.com <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2010/06/11/world/middleeast/11gaza.html?hp" rel="nofollow">http://www.nytimes.com/2010/06/11/world/middleeas...</a> Justin "This is neutral unbiased and interesting piece" New Approach Sought as Pressure Grows to End Gaza Embargo – NYTimes.com
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/06/11/world/middleeas…

]]> By: Steve Josovitz http://smskullsessions.com/israel-vs-palestine/comment-page-1#comment-3278 Steve Josovitz Wed, 09 Jun 2010 16:47:25 +0000 http://smskullsessions.com/?p=519#comment-3278 <a href="http://www.pmw.org.il/Bulletins_May2009.htm#b130509" rel="nofollow">http://www.pmw.org.il/Bulletins_May2009.htm#b1305...</a> The above link is very eye opening for the uneducated and or those that only watch the arab controlled bashing that Israel and Jews endures. Arabs hate Jews and the State of Israel. It is a proven and known fact to anyone that studies and digs a little. Yes there are arabs that do not fall into this category but they are few and far between. if Jews and Arabs live together in Israel and Arabs hold parliament seats in the Knesset then why do the Arabs kill each other in the GAZA strip and the WEST BANK. Arabs hate each other so if they can't live together peacefully how in the heck do you think they can co0exist with Israel. You need to seriously wake up Justin and stop watching You tube videos and news gathering from liberal non credible news sources that are forming your opinion. You have never been to the Middle East. I have and talked to the Aran in the street along with the US ARAB here. They do not share you sentiments. Anyone and everyone including the Arabs knows that HAMAS is a terrorist group and are killing arabs everyday in GAZA and shooting missiles into Israel. You would like Israel to lift the blockade so that Iran and Syria could hand deliver freely and openly weapons of mass destruction to their enemies that they have said they wish to wipe out. The people are not starving in Gaza and they get everything they want delivered to them. Until Israel has a peace treaty in place then there enemy currently a terrorist group will have to settle for deliveries by land and not sea. Too bad. http://www.pmw.org.il/Bulletins_May2009.htm#b1305…

The above link is very eye opening for the uneducated and or those that only watch the arab controlled bashing that Israel and Jews endures. Arabs hate Jews and the State of Israel. It is a proven and known fact to anyone that studies and digs a little. Yes there are arabs that do not fall into this category but they are few and far between. if Jews and Arabs live together in Israel and Arabs hold parliament seats in the Knesset then why do the Arabs kill each other in the GAZA strip and the WEST BANK. Arabs hate each other so if they can't live together peacefully how in the heck do you think they can co0exist with Israel. You need to seriously wake up Justin and stop watching You tube videos and news gathering from liberal non credible news sources that are forming your opinion. You have never been to the Middle East. I have and talked to the Aran in the street along with the US ARAB here. They do not share you sentiments. Anyone and everyone including the Arabs knows that HAMAS is a terrorist group and are killing arabs everyday in GAZA and shooting missiles into Israel. You would like Israel to lift the blockade so that Iran and Syria could hand deliver freely and openly weapons of mass destruction to their enemies that they have said they wish to wipe out. The people are not starving in Gaza and they get everything they want delivered to them. Until Israel has a peace treaty in place then there enemy currently a terrorist group will have to settle for deliveries by land and not sea. Too bad.

]]> By: Steve Josovitz http://smskullsessions.com/israel-vs-palestine/comment-page-1#comment-3277 Steve Josovitz Sun, 06 Jun 2010 20:09:51 +0000 http://smskullsessions.com/?p=519#comment-3277 Justin, Great job on this blog and posting this OP ED from the Washington Post but you still do not get it and I so frustrated trying to get you " a very bright and education young man to see the light "..... There are only two opinions and two sides when you live in a utopian lala world of protecting the downtrodden and helpless which means that the Jews and Israel will always get bashed. Did you write and or protest about the almost 50 South Koreans killed by a missile attack on a South Korean ship in its own waters. Did you or anyone other Jews and Israelis give a damn or do a single thing to to obtain the release of the Israeli Gilad Schalit. Hamas Terrorists came into Israel crossing the border and captured this Israeli. Three years. Have you done one blog in his defense to gain his releases though due to a criminal activity of illegally breaking a naval blockade with ships know to be carrying 50 Islamic JiHadist s with weapons you and the world utopian dreamers , activists and the arab world get the media to go crazy and vilify Israel. Its the same story since 1948. Israel has every right to have a blockade to prevent the flow of weapons into GAZA. When the PA and HAMAS decided to make peace then maybe peace can come to Israel as well. How can you peace activists not attack Hamas. Over 15 tons of goods a week are sent by Israel into GAZA every week. Nothing is being stopped to come in except military goods obviously. It is an inconvenience but HAMAS has declared war on Israel so Israel should allow HAMAS aligned with Syria and Iran to have free open borders for the unfettered flow of goods. Israel is the only democracy in the middle east and the only 100% friend and ally to America. In my previous letter I told you that Arabs hold parliament seats in Israel. That does not happen in any middle east county. You should be focused on the bloodshed in Africa occurring everyday and the horrible human right conditions in China, Russia and the abuse woman endure overseas in addition to the horrible human trafficking of woman in the sex slaves. I don't see any blogs or big time news on any of these subjects. Now basing Jews and Israel. That is always fun. Israel bungled this mission. They should have surrounded the boats and made them wait it out. OK so they didn't. Israel did not cause this. Did you see the peaceful boat Rachel Corrie. They allowed Israel Soldiers to board and even assisted the soldiers. They protested in the open seas and communicated in peaceful protest that they would not go to the port Israel wanted them to dock out. The Flotilla last week chose to come into a gunfight and they as in interviewed prior to and during the trip said they were prepared to fight and die. So they did. They got what they wished for. I abhor the loss of any human life but they brought this on themselves. Where is the blog on the Palestinian suicide bombers that are young boys and girls. Where is the blogs and uproar against Hamas and the arab world for allowing this. Iran pays a financial gift to the families of any Arab family that does carries out a suicide mission against Israel. Do you see this anywhere in Al Jazeera . Nope... Just hatred and propaganda against Israel and Jews.... When I see biased reporting or arab leaders standing up against abuse, terrorism, corruption, and allow for human rights and free speech and use there oil money to uplift the poor Palestinianthen we can have a different conversation. Justin, Great job on this blog and posting this OP ED from the Washington Post but you still do not get it and I so frustrated trying to get you " a very bright and education young man to see the light "….. There are only two opinions and two sides when you live in a utopian lala world of protecting the downtrodden and helpless which means that the Jews and Israel will always get bashed. Did you write and or protest about the almost 50 South Koreans killed by a missile attack on a South Korean ship in its own waters. Did you or anyone other Jews and Israelis give a damn or do a single thing to to obtain the release of the Israeli Gilad Schalit. Hamas Terrorists came into Israel crossing the border and captured this Israeli. Three years. Have you done one blog in his defense to gain his releases though due to a criminal activity of illegally breaking a naval blockade with ships know to be carrying 50 Islamic JiHadist s with weapons you and the world utopian dreamers , activists and the arab world get the media to go crazy and vilify Israel. Its the same story since 1948. Israel has every right to have a blockade to prevent the flow of weapons into GAZA. When the PA and HAMAS decided to make peace then maybe peace can come to Israel as well. How can you peace activists not attack Hamas. Over 15 tons of goods a week are sent by Israel into GAZA every week. Nothing is being stopped to come in except military goods obviously. It is an inconvenience but HAMAS has declared war on Israel so Israel should allow HAMAS aligned with Syria and Iran to have free open borders for the unfettered flow of goods. Israel is the only democracy in the middle east and the only 100% friend and ally to America. In my previous letter I told you that Arabs hold parliament seats in Israel. That does not happen in any middle east county. You should be focused on the bloodshed in Africa occurring everyday and the horrible human right conditions in China, Russia and the abuse woman endure overseas in addition to the horrible human trafficking of woman in the sex slaves. I don't see any blogs or big time news on any of these subjects. Now basing Jews and Israel. That is always fun. Israel bungled this mission. They should have surrounded the boats and made them wait it out. OK so they didn't. Israel did not cause this. Did you see the peaceful boat Rachel Corrie. They allowed Israel Soldiers to board and even assisted the soldiers. They protested in the open seas and communicated in peaceful protest that they would not go to the port Israel wanted them to dock out. The Flotilla last week chose to come into a gunfight and they as in interviewed prior to and during the trip said they were prepared to fight and die. So they did. They got what they wished for. I abhor the loss of any human life but they brought this on themselves. Where is the blog on the Palestinian suicide bombers that are young boys and girls. Where is the blogs and uproar against Hamas and the arab world for allowing this. Iran pays a financial gift to the families of any Arab family that does carries out a suicide mission against Israel. Do you see this anywhere in Al Jazeera . Nope… Just hatred and propaganda against Israel and Jews…. When I see biased reporting or arab leaders standing up against abuse, terrorism, corruption, and allow for human rights and free speech and use there oil money to uplift the poor Palestinianthen we can have a different conversation.

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